This is book three in the series and we have done a little speculating as to possible clues to events that occur in the fourth book, Dreamfever. But we have done our best not to spoil those that have not read beyond this book. We’ll try to keep that in mind during discussion as well.
Please note that this discussion is meant for those that have read up to at least book three in the series. If you have not read Faefever yet you will be spoiled. If you missed out on the first two discussions you can read them here: Darkfever and Bloodfever.
Note: Direct quotes from the book are in italics.
Lets get started:
Sinsar Dubh – aka “The Book” Facts
But I didn’t tell him the three faces the Book had presented, or the severity of the crimes, or that it was killing the carrier before it moved on. I let him believe it was passing itself off from one live human to the next.
Regarding the book, Mac says – “I can only call it the Beast, and leave it there.” (Foreshadow for Dreamfever end? See ending discussion questions)
It had looked at me, seen me. I couldn’t explain it, but I felt it had somehow marked me, tagged me like a pigeon.
“The Unseelie King was once the King of the Light, the Queen’s consort, and Seelie.”
“The dark ones are the Seelie King’s children” i.e – Unseelie that he created while trying to recreate the ‘song of making’
The King was obsessed with making his concubine a Fae and he began to experiment on lesser Fae to try to recreate the Song of Making. His concubine was kept in a cage, and he created things to entertain her: The Shifting Silvers, The Amulet and The Box. Eventually, his concubine hated what the King had become and took her own life. The Book was created as an atonement of the King. He poured all of his knowledge in there, in hopes of begging Seelie Queen for forgiveness. Through the ages it has changed and has become a living thing. The King could not destroy it because it was his equal in evil. Queen Aoibheal is the current Queen – she wants the Book because she thinks “it contains the key to the true Song of Making that has been lost to my race for seven hundred thousand years.”
V’lane reminds Mac – only Queen and Seelie King can touch all the Hallows – he wants them to have The Book. V’lane says the Queen was attacked recently and it left her weak, she is in his realm, trying to recreate the Song. All the princesses are gone – she sent them to search for the Book–In a matriarchal society this is a disaster.
Toward end of the book, Mac and Barrons get five feet from The Book – it knows her name. Mac says – “The Beast shows us the very worst in ourselves and makes us know it’s true”
Mac feeds Unseelie to Detective Jayne so he can see what is really walking around his city. He then alerts Mac when there is a severe crime scene, so she can track The Book.
Dani tells Mac the book was hidden under the abbey, but about twenty years ago, it vanished. No one knows who took it. It was at this time, Rowena created the PHI (a Dublin Courier service that serves as a cover for the sidhe-seer coalition) to track and try to reclaim the Book. Per the glossary (ie. Mac’s journal) – Mac notes: “The abbey/sidhe-seers have a very wealthy benefactor who funnels funds through multiple corporations. I wonder who it is.”
At one time some Seelie could go back in time, although limited (except for the Queen). But they no longer possess that ability. They are currently trapped in the present, unable to sift time.Smaller, less powerful Fae can slip through walls- powerful Fae, because of the way the prison was created, get their power reverberated back to them, so the more powerful they are, the more difficult it is for them to penetrate the walls.
In V’lanes words: “We have been discussing sidhe-seer wards. The magic your people know and the magic Barrons knows are not the same.” V’lane can’t get through Barron’s wards.
V’lane put his name on Mac’s tongue so she can call him at anytime.
V’lane has at least one of the four stones. In the glossary (aka Mac’s journal) she notes that the stones might not necessarily decipher the Book, but reveal it’s “true nature.” Again – for those that have read Dreamfever – is this foreshadowing for the end of that book? (This along with Mac referring to The Book as The Beast.)
Barrons says to V’lane “Maybe I learned enough from your princess that I don’t need all four.” Sophia speculates: Could V’lane be the one that brought Barron’s to his knees? (Barrons and Mac talked about this in Bloodfever.) Remember when Mac asked Barrons what he did to the one that brought him to his knees and Barrons said he killed his wife. I wonder if Barron’s killed V’lanes wife (princess)?
Mac asks Barrons if V’lane is good or bad – he won’t answer. She asks V’lane if Barrons is human or something else – he won’t answer. They each have something on the other….Mac pushes Barrons as hard as she can toward V’lane and V’lane instantly moves back. Mac says: “The Fae Prince feared Barrons. I tried to process that thought but I’m not sure I succeeded.”
“The ability to sense Fae objects is extremely rare, Mac. The last sidhe-seer with that ability died a long time ago. We’ve not been successful at breeding those bloodlines.”
V’lane says the LM is Fae – but no longer. Formerly a Seelie named Darroc, a trusted member of queen’s high council. He betrayed the queen, secretly working with royal hunters. “Darroc’s special diversion was playing with human women for a long, cruel time, before destroying them.” The Queen took away his immortality and power and sent him to the human realm…but he has found ways to survive. She did NOT strip his knowledge from him.<–big mistake.
Mac sees Barrons coming out of one of his mirror covered in blood and ice and he carried the bloody body of a young woman. Barrons gives no answer for this. He does finally admit to using mirrors and that they are – uncomfortable – for him.
Barrons tries to teach Mac to resist Voice. “The key to resisting Voice is finding that place inside you no one else can touch.”
Teacher/Student develop immunity to Voice.
When Barrons thinks Mac betrayed him to V’lane, Barrons uses Voice and Mac tells him EVERYTHING she knows. Then she realizes – Was this it? The source of his rage? Was Barrons jealous? Barrons said he needed to know if she was pri-ya. He also blows up when he finds out she has been seeing Christian.
“This isn’t home, it never will be, and nobody’s getting laid!” I practically shouted.
“You think I don’t know that?” His shifted his body beneath me, making me painfully aware of something. Two somethings, in fact, one of which was how far up my short skirt was. The other wasn’t my problem. I wriggled to shimmy my hem down, but his expression perished the thought. When Barrons looks at me like that, it rattles me. Lust, in those ancient, obsidean eyes, offers no trace of humanity. Doesn’t even bother trying. Savage Mac wants to invite it to come out and play.
Barrons says: “You’ve obviosuly never been raped. Rape isn’t something you walk away from. You crawl.”
“You are allied with me. And they should fear you.” My eyes narrowed. “Why should they fear me?” He smiled faintly. “You have barely begun to understand what you are.”
“What are you?” I said irritably. “In the Serengeti, Ms. Lane, I would be the cheetah. I’m stronger, smarter, faster, and hungrier than everything else out there. And I don’t apologize to the gazelle when I take it down.”
I moistened my lips. His gaze fixed on them. I think I stopped breathing. He jerked so sharply away that his long dark coat sliced air, and turned his back to me. “Was that an invitation, Ms. Lane?” “If it was?” I asked, astonishing myself. What did I think I was doing? “I don’t do hypotheticals. Little girl.”
Mac makes Barrons hold the Seelie Spear (thinking Barrons is Unseelie and wouldn’t be able to touch it) but Barrons does hold it proving he is not Unseelie. BUT – V’lane later tells Mac, the Unseelie King can touch all Hallows. Could Barrons be the Unseelie King?
“What are you? Why don’t you just tell me and get it over with?”
“One day you’ll stop asking me. I think I’ll like knowing you then.”
“The day I give you answers will be the day you no longer need them.”
He can tell if someone is lying. He comes from a clan that once served the Fae.
The Keltars were given the duty of “performing certain rituals to maintain the walls between them. Over the millennia, they performed them faithfully…but in recent years , the rituals stopped going as expected”. Dark magic had risen preventing the tithe from being fully paid. They believe the walls won’t last another incomplete ritual. Still haven’t seen Queen. At last ritual they had to use blood.
Only Seelie used to walk among everyone. Unseelie have been imprisoned for so long. If the walls come down, all castes will escape.
Christian remembers Alina’s boyfriend as Fae – but only caught a fleeting glimpse.
His uncles sent Christian to Dublin to spy on Barrons. He shows Mac pictures of Barrons which prove he is not aging and is at least over a hundred years old.
An anonymous person is mailing Mac pages from Alina’s journal.
Alina had gone to Trinity to see if she could get a text translated. This is how she and Christian met.
“Get me the Book, and I’ll get you your sister back.” – LM offers to bring Alina back same as she was before. He says he didn’t kill her – he wasn’t done with her yet. Mac realizes he has never really tried to get her. Later he threatens Mac and tells her if she does not help him he will take the thing she loves the most. Mac wonders what that ‘thing’ is.
From Alina’s journal – “I thought I was hunting the Book, and that would be the end of it. But now I know we’ve got to re-create what once was. We’ve got to find the five foretold by the Haven’s prophecy. The Sinsar Dubh alone isn’t enough. We need the stones and the book and the five.” (The Haven = High Council of sidhe-seers)
Rowena wants D’Jai Orb as a peace offering from Mac but also to help in keeping the walls up on October 31st – Samhain. Later when the orb is opened during the ceremony, Shades come out into the abbey. Rowena says Mac betrayed them and set them up. Mac wonders if Barrons planted the shades in the orb or if they were there when he acquired it.
That night – the walls come down. Mac realizes the Unseelie/LM have been planning this attack. The Rhino boys have been infiltrating their daily jobs.
The Unseelie Princes find Mac that morning. They rape her – she becomes Pri-ya.
Final page: “I grasped with both hands for the succor of touch, tossed a tangle of hair from my eyes, and looked up, straight into the face of the Lord Master. “I think she’ll obey me now,” he murmured. Obey him? I’d die for him.
Two notes from beginning of chapter sixteen that might be important while reading Dreamfever:
- Hypnagogia, a state during which a person might think herself fully alert, but is actually actively engaged in dreaming. (Mac talks about dreaming etc.)
- Fictional characters are often Liminal Beings, archetypes that straddle two worlds, marking or guarding thresholds, or are physically divided by two states of existence. Between-ness is a defining characteristic of liminal.
Also: Mac has always had recurring dream of a beautiful woman dying. Mac feels this intense urge to do anything to save her in the dream. She wonders if this is a memory of her biological mother.
By sending her sidhe-seers after me in force, with orders to subdue me and steal my weapon, she’d said: You are not one of us and the only way you can become one of us is complete subjugation to my will. Give me your weapon, obey me in all things, and I’ll consider letting you into the fold.
Clearly we do not like Rowena, but what do you think is her true motivation? Who is she really? Is she evil or just power hungry? Misguided?
Who were the five? What do you think the Haven’s prophecy is? Mac is 22 years old. The Book disappeared about twenty years ago and it is rumored some of the Haven were killed or disappeared. Was Mac’s mother a member?
Who put the shades in the Orb that were released at the abbey?
Dani photocopies pages from a text on Rowena’s desk. Within these pages contains a story about a boy, charmed into going to Faery where he is locked in a cage to watch horrendous crimes committed by the Fae. (This can be found in Chapter 10, pg 192-195). Do we have theories as to who this boy is locked in the cage?
Mac refers to the Book as “The Beast” many times throughout Faefever. Not to get ahead of ourselves, but this may be very important foreshadowing to events that happen in Dreamfever (when the term “Beast” is used to describe something else).
“Christian remembers Alina’s boyfriend as Fae – but only caught a fleeting glimpse.” The LM is no longer Fae, so do we think the LM was not actually Alina’s boyfriend? Was there someone else she was with? Or was Christian mistaken? Many possibilities here.
When Mac asks V’lane point blank if Barrons is good or evil, human or other he does not answer. Why? What secret(s) does Barrons and V’lane share?
Ok, as we all know, this book ended on a very disturbing note. However, if you read the note at the end of the book from Karen Marie Moning, she assures us there is hope for Mac. Now, on to Dreamfever which will be discussed at SmexyBooks on January 13th and then we’ll all be ready for the fifth and final book in this amazing series, Shadowfever: release date January 18th.